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Discussion in 'Narrow Gauge Railways' started by AndrewT, Jul 17, 2012.

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    A few shots from me - mostly 31st May, one on 1st June.

     
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    Doesn't the rolling stock have to comply with the Ffestiniog loading gauge?
     
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    There is a difference between the FR and WHR loading gauges. There is no limitation on FR stock being used on the WHR, but WHR locos and stock effectively cannot go beyond Boston Lodge (and I think may be limited within parts of the Boston Lodge complex itself). I believe that one of the NGG16s went a bit beyond the works entry to rescue a failed FR train but cannot go too far.

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    Afternoon All,

    I've now added a second album of pictures from the Quirks & Curiosities II gala weekend to my Flickr site. This is the link for those interested to see them :

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/train-pix/albums/72157681772112261

    Not exactly hot news, I know, but I hope that they're still of interest.
     
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    WHR Stock including NGG16s is permitted as far as Boston lodge halt. Boston Lodge has various restrictions for various roads, not just on WHR stock.

    Some WHR stock has travelled beyond there. 2020 (now 2011) has been as far Garnedd Tunnel, however clearances are next to nothing in some places so it isn't practical on a regular basis.

    Some FR stock is restricted on the WHR due to lack of continuous brakes.

    Tim
     
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    Anyone know if there will be a brochure time table for the September WHR event , as there usually is, can't find anything on the site as yet?
     
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    Howdy all - just a quick question... Making my first visit to the FR tomorrow, although I've been a member a short while. Just wondering if it's ever possible to have a look round Boston Lodge? Appreciate it's a working depot so wouldn't want to take the mickey, but would love to have a quick peek if it's allowed!


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    I was a bit disappointed this week that the evening train we went on was composed entirely of modern corridor stock.
     
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    You could say Fairlie good there Black five/Lee:Facepalm::rolleyes::Finger:! Seriously though, it's hard to think that in the past there have also been UK standard gauge versions as well as some built for the Czarist pre-revaloution Russia standard gauge too. Really liked the shot of the Garrett arriving at Portmaddog off the Welsh Highland line as one of the Fairlies was running round on the FR side of the platform. It's hard to think both types are running on the same gauge lines as well.
     
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    Most of the FR's trains are composed of modern stock. This is partly because that's what the majority of passengers prefer, but also because the vintage stock is kept for strengthening trains when needed at time of heavy passenger loadings. This is usually in the daytime rather than the evenings.

    The vintage stock is a very valuable asset and the FR's policy is only to use it when necessary to keep the wear and tear to a minimum. However, they do get all the toys out of their boxes a couple of times a year in Spring and Autumn. The next occasion will be the Victorian Weekend on the 6th to 8th of October. Well worth going to, believe me.

    Details here:

    http://www.festrail.co.uk/content/publish/specialevents/494.shtml
     
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    The current view of the board is that people want double glazed superbarns and ugly observation cars. I'm not really convinced myself and I think it would be great if the railway offered a choice. Hiding one the best collections of 19th century rolling stock in a shed for all but 2 weekends a year seems like madness to me.

    I think there are some opportunities in the peak timetable to offer a full line vintage train. Sadly the will to try anything different isn't there.


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    Not too sure the Ffesterbahn's operating department would agree with you Tim.

    Anecdotal and photographic evidence suggest that, where mixed trains of "double glazed superbarns and ugly observation cars" are operated with heritage stock in the rake, the vast majority of punters will leave you to savour the delights of the heritage carriages in peace!
     
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    Twice a year is better than never or stuck in a museum as a static display.
     
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    Looking at it from a commercial point of view, the corridor stock give the Buffet Car stewards the opportunity to sell cups of tea and coffee, glasses of beer, guide books, etc.
     
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    Just wondering what the latest is on the possibility of Russell getting a run out on the WHR? I know some WHHR train did some brake trials out on the WHR a few years back - has anything further come of them?
     
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    I travel the full length of the Welsh Highland Railway 2 or 3 times a year - every time I travel, the (heritage) green Welsh Highland Railway vehicle is at one end of the train. I've never seen anyone travelling in it.
     
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    Thats got nothing to do with the fact that the booking system for coach parties and individuals only allocates seats in the corridor stock then? And certainly nothing to do with them being right by the door. Anyway you're missing the point. I'm not talking about dumping a few old coaches on the front of a normal train. I'm talking about marketing something different. You would be amazed how peoples reactions change when you educate them on what they are travelling in and give them an experience that is different. The main source of income is people buying tickets to ride on trains. The thing to work out would be are you actually loosing any secondary spend by not having a buffet car or are you picking it up somewhere else like in the cafe or shop instead.

    I just think there is a lot of potential for the FR to offer something different from the WHR rather than the slow drift into offering the same thing which is happening now.

    The short answer to that is not until the land dispute a Pen-y-Mount is settled.

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